Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/01/2004 03:20 PM House L&C

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HB 517-SECURITY ACCOUNT BENEFICIARY DESIGNATION                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  517,  "An Act  relating  to registration  in                                                               
beneficiary form of certain  security accounts, including certain                                                               
reinvestment, investment management, and custody accounts."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Chair Anderson turned the gavel over to Vice Chair Gatto.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0725                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOSH  APPLEBEE,  Staff  to Representative  Tom  Anderson,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, speaking  as the  committee aide,  introduced                                                               
HB 517,  which was  sponsored  by the  House  Labor and  Commerce                                                               
Standing Committee.   He  said HB 517  will permit  an investment                                                               
management or  custody account  with a trust  company or  a trust                                                               
division  of a  bank  with  trust powers  to  have a  beneficiary                                                               
designation take effect  upon death of the owner.   Under current                                                               
law,  securities  and  brokerage accounts  may  have  beneficiary                                                               
designations take effect upon the  death of the owner pursuant to                                                               
the Uniform Transfer on Death Security Registration Act.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. APPLEBEE  explained that the current  definition of "security                                                               
account"  in  the  uniform  Act isn't  broad  enough  to  include                                                               
investment management  or custody  accounts, which  are generally                                                               
used by  trust departments.   The legislation  will allow  all of                                                               
these products  - and thus bank  customers - to avoid  probate by                                                               
providing  a   statutory  authorization  to  use   a  beneficiary                                                               
designation.   It  will also  put  bank trust  departments on  an                                                               
equal  footing  with brokerage  firms.    Mr. Applebee  said  the                                                               
problem cannot be solved other  than by statute.  Several states,                                                               
including  California, Idaho,  Iowa,  Minnesota, and  Washington,                                                               
have enacted similar legislation in the last three years.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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LORIE  HOVANEC, Senior  Trust  Administrator,  Wells Fargo  Bank,                                                               
Anchorage,   noting  that   she   is   an  attorney,   reinforced                                                               
Mr. Applebee's explanation.   She said under  current law whereby                                                               
securities   and   brokerage   accounts  may   have   beneficiary                                                               
designations that  take effect  upon the  death of  the account's                                                               
owner,  the   assets  of  the   account  pass   automatically  to                                                               
designated  beneficiaries upon  the  death of  the owner  without                                                               
having  to  go  through  probate.   The  definition  of  security                                                               
accounts in  this transfer-on-death  statute wasn't  broad enough                                                               
to include  investment management for custody  accounts, products                                                               
generally offered by bank trust  departments.  Alaska's transfer-                                                               
on-death statute  is similar  to that  in other  states.   It was                                                               
initially drafted  as a  uniform state  law and  subsequently was                                                               
adopted in most states.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOVANEC  said custody and investment  management accounts are                                                               
similar to brokerage  accounts except they are  accounts at banks                                                               
or  trust  companies, not  at  brokerages.   These  accounts  may                                                               
contain  stocks  and bonds,  just  like  brokerage accounts.    A                                                               
custody account is customer-directed:   the bank or trust company                                                               
holds or  "custodies" assets  and then  the customer  manages and                                                               
directs the  investment by picking  the stocks, bonds,  and other                                                               
assets.   In contrast,  in an  investment management  account the                                                               
bank or trust company manages the assets.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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MS.  HOVANEC  provided  her understanding  that  when  the  model                                                               
transfer-on-death statute was drafted and  adopted in Alaska, the                                                               
drafters were  focused on accounts  offered by  brokerages, since                                                               
it  was generally  assumed that  bank accounts  would fall  under                                                               
another statute.   She said HB 517 would simply  make it possible                                                               
to  meet  customer  expectations.   The  proposal  would  benefit                                                               
customers  directly by  avoiding  probate in  the  same way  that                                                               
other  pay-on-death  and  transfer-on-death  accounts  may  avoid                                                               
probate through  use of  these beneficiary forms.   She  said she                                                               
didn't think  this change  was controversial,  and said  in other                                                               
states in which this law had  been enacted there haven't been any                                                               
problems with customers, to her knowledge.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  GATTO asked  if the probate  process is  difficult in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOVANEC replied that probate "isn't  too bad" in Alaska.  She                                                               
said Alaska  adopted the Uniform  Probate Code, which  helped the                                                               
process.   In response  to a  question from  Representative Lynn,                                                               
she  said  the  avoidance  of  probate is  the  main  reason  she                                                               
supports this bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG said  sometimes  trusts provide  ongoing                                                               
income on a periodic basis to  recipients of the trust.  He asked                                                               
if this bill  would help prevent interrupting the  cash flow from                                                               
these trusts.  He gave the example  of a child as a sole survivor                                                               
after the death  of his only parent and asked  if the transfer by                                                               
avoiding probate would be faster.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOVANEC affirmed that.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG asked  if  this bill  would only  affect                                                               
those  security accounts  within the  trust situation  or affects                                                               
checking accounts or other types of accounts.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOVANEC replied,  "The language  in the  amendment specified                                                               
investment  management account  or  custody  accounts, which  are                                                               
with the trust division of a bank with trust powers."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-23, SIDE A                                                                                                            
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REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report  HB 517 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  HB 517 was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    

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